Thank you prof Agbaje. I believe the need for pragmatism can be helpful, especially where respect for standards are retained. While the UNILAG journal can reach further to more excellent ideals, it should not be crucified.
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On Thu, 8/29/13, adigun agbaje <agbaje.adigun@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics: CALL FOR PAPERS
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Browne Onuoha" <browneonuoha@yahoo.com>, "obi iheduru" <ihed101@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 9:49 AM
Thanks for this
clarification. I believe it addresses some, if not all, the
issues that have been raised on the subject in the last 24
hours or so.Adigun
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Femi Segun <soloruntoba@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks for all your responses on this
critical and pertinent issue. Indeed, I concur with Prof
Okey Iheduru on the worrisome trend of self publications
and the challenges of getting funding for Journal
publications in Nigerian Universities. . However, in the
particular case of this Unilag Journal of Politics, the
articles are blind peer-reviewed. Asking people to pay at
the point of submission is to ensure that reviewers are
motivated (or incentivised) to return the paper on time.
From my experience as a member of Faculty in the Department
of Political Science at Unilag, such advanced payments have
not in any way affected the decisions of the Editorial Board
on whether or not to accept the papers for publication.
Indeed, it has happened (even recently) that papers
submitted by colleagues in the Department were turned down
for not meeting the standard (based on comments from
reviewers). Of course such colleagues may rework their
papers and get it published elsewhere.
The need to have standard on which journals to be
accepted for promotion should be based cannot be
over-emphasised. I think NUC should be involved in this by
identifying journals, which will be subjected to certain
standards before being accredited. The issue of indexing
and citation that Prof. Okey mentioned are also essential.
If knowledge production is to be meaningful, it must be
accessible to the universe of academia, policy makers and
other end users. The whole essence of scholarship is
defeated and undermined if our research and writings are
just meant for promotion.
In South Africa, there are lists of accredited
journals. It is only publications that appear in these
journals that are considered for promotion or any other
benefits. The respective universities pay Faculty
members who get their papers published in accredited
journals.
I should think issues like these should be included in
the on-going ASUU -FG negotiations
Samuel O OloruntobaPost-Doctoral
FellowThabo Mbeki African Leadership
Institute
University of South Africa, Pretoria.South
Africa..
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
11:57 AM, okey iheduru <okeyiheduru@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just completed a 2-year
sabbatical/Fulbright Fellowship LEADS
Fellowship at the National Defense College, Abuja in Nigeria
during which I participated in six (6) National Universities
Commission (NUC) program
accreditation visits to one federal, two state and three
private
universities for Political Science and International
Relations, Economics and Sociology.
I learned a lot about the opportunities and challenges of
university education in Nigeria. I'll never forget many
of the exceptionally brilliant students my panels and i
interacted with as part of our assignment. Some economics
departments have advanced electronic labs for their formal
modelling/econometrics courses, while some programs have
easily accessible subscriptions to various research
databases for their electronic libraries. When time permits,
I'll do a proper write-up on my experiences, more
broadly.
I would like here to respond to the "Call for
Papers" from Unilag that asked prospective authors to
also send money. During the accreditation visits (which are
really meticulous and rigorous--I hope Oga Ikide is reading
this!), I found that while
quite a number of colleagues are doing serious scholarship,
the
overwhelming percentage is engaged in what you call
"Vanity" journal (and book) publishing. Every
department--100 PERCENT--that we evaluated had its own
"journal" which is "edited" in-house.
Thereafter the authors literally put a gun on the head of
administrators to count those "publications" as
part of the percentage of scholarship that can be locally
published. Even Colleges of Education and Polytechnics have
departmental journals in Nigeria--there was a CFP from one
of them on this list recently.
None of these "journals" is indexed, either
locally or internationally; so, colleagues who live/work
five kilometres away from the institutions may not even know
that such publications exist. Some institutions have been
posting some of their publications online to give them
visibility and possibly generate citation counts. There are
claims (I have no proof; it wasn't my charge) that some
of the articles are plagiarized or may even be exact copies
of papers published elsewhere with a new author and
institutional affiliation.
Sadly, there is no nation-wide outlet to present, publish
and/or professionally review recent work in the fields I
evaluated since, for instance, the once-famous Nigerian
Political Science Association and its journal died following
the zoning of its leadership to the North who must have
their "turn" at leading the association. A similar
fate has befallen many scholarly groups--the Historical
Society of Nigeria seems to be one of the few exceptions.
Asked why these colleagues shouldn't be reading and/or
publishing in outlets put out by older institutions with
seasoned academics with more credible track record, I was
hushed down with: "Why should we be reading their own?
Why can't they read our own [journals]?" A PhD is a
PhD, I was told, even if it's awarded by a two-year old
caricature of what others know as a university!
It's worth noting that in one state
university we visited, of the nine (9) lecturers on
the Sociology faculty, six (6) obtained their PhDs (as well
as their BSc and MSc degrees) from the same department! Not
only do you smell "in-breeding",you can assume
they were also taught and mentored by senior colleagues who
rose through the ranks based on publications in departmental
journals. Indeed, many colleagues on the Deans and VC ranks
today cut their academic teeth in the "Volume 1, Number
1" syndrome of the 1990s and early 2000s. It's
worth noting, though, that no more than 68 percent of
faculty in all Nigerian Universities have doctorates; not
easy to produce one, really.
It was amusing to find senior lecturers, associate
professors/readers and even full professors with 50-100
"scholarly papers" almost 9/10 of which appear in
these in-house and other publications. I'm not making
any judgement regarding the quality of these publications
since I have not read them. Yet, I find the culture very
worrisome. Sometimes "books" (especially edited
volumes) are published without a clear reason why such a
"scholarly book" should be published. I earned
some reputation as a snub whenever I explained my inability
to honor "Prof, can you please contribute a chapter for
my book" requests.
Many of these colleagues with very long list of
"scholarly papers" have fewer than five (5)
citation counts on Google Scholar, if at all they do. Of
course, many of us Diaspora academics have relatively very
little citation counts, never mind the amount of noise we
make all the time on this list. It must be stated that, as
at this point, the NUC has not taken up the responsibility
to regulate this aspect of academic quality--not sure it
should. What are department heads, deans, Senate and vice
chancellors supposed to do?
From our Diaspora stand point, many of these publications
are clearly "Vanity" journals and books, but the
reality is that it costs a lot of money to publish them.
Cash-trapped departments, faculties and/or universities have
more weighty priorities. Perhaps, a much better write-up
could have been on ideas/strategies to help these colleagues
to get out of these morass--many of them teach 3-4 courses
of 200-500 students a semester without TAs and get as small
as N10,000 a year for academic conference presentations. Any
ideas?
Regards,
Okey Iheduru.
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
8:56 AM, D Foreal <forealng@yahoo.com>
wrote:
This is a cash and carry journal.
Any right thinking academic should avoid this journal. It is
a vanity journal as in vanity press.
From: franklyne
ogbunwezeh <ogbunwezeh@yahoo.com>
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
<usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: Re:
USA Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics:
CALL FOR PAPERS
You guys are funny! I
should send money alongside my paper. This si really crazy.
Thanks no thanks.
Franklyne Ogbunwezeh
* **************
*************** ****************** ***************
***********
What constitutes a disservice to our faculty of judgment,
however, is to place obstacles in the way of assembling
truth's fragments, remaining content with a mere one- or
two-dimensional projection where a multidimensional and
multifaceted apprehension remains open, accessible and
instructive.
Wole Soyinka, Between Truth and
Indulgences
From: Dele Ashiru
<ashirudele@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
<usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent:
Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: USA
Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics: CALL
FOR PAPERS
Dear
All,
Please respond appropriately.Best wishes
'Dele
Ashiru.
Department of Political Science,
University of Lagos,
Lagos,Nigeria.
+234-8026274712, +234-8019119573.
http//:www.politicalscienceunilag.org
http//:www.unilag.edu.ng
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On Thu, 8/29/13, adigun agbaje <agbaje.adigun@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics: CALL FOR PAPERS
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Browne Onuoha" <browneonuoha@yahoo.com>, "obi iheduru" <ihed101@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013, 9:49 AM
Thanks for this
clarification. I believe it addresses some, if not all, the
issues that have been raised on the subject in the last 24
hours or so.Adigun
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Femi Segun <soloruntoba@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks for all your responses on this
critical and pertinent issue. Indeed, I concur with Prof
Okey Iheduru on the worrisome trend of self publications
and the challenges of getting funding for Journal
publications in Nigerian Universities. . However, in the
particular case of this Unilag Journal of Politics, the
articles are blind peer-reviewed. Asking people to pay at
the point of submission is to ensure that reviewers are
motivated (or incentivised) to return the paper on time.
From my experience as a member of Faculty in the Department
of Political Science at Unilag, such advanced payments have
not in any way affected the decisions of the Editorial Board
on whether or not to accept the papers for publication.
Indeed, it has happened (even recently) that papers
submitted by colleagues in the Department were turned down
for not meeting the standard (based on comments from
reviewers). Of course such colleagues may rework their
papers and get it published elsewhere.
The need to have standard on which journals to be
accepted for promotion should be based cannot be
over-emphasised. I think NUC should be involved in this by
identifying journals, which will be subjected to certain
standards before being accredited. The issue of indexing
and citation that Prof. Okey mentioned are also essential.
If knowledge production is to be meaningful, it must be
accessible to the universe of academia, policy makers and
other end users. The whole essence of scholarship is
defeated and undermined if our research and writings are
just meant for promotion.
In South Africa, there are lists of accredited
journals. It is only publications that appear in these
journals that are considered for promotion or any other
benefits. The respective universities pay Faculty
members who get their papers published in accredited
journals.
I should think issues like these should be included in
the on-going ASUU -FG negotiations
Samuel O OloruntobaPost-Doctoral
FellowThabo Mbeki African Leadership
Institute
University of South Africa, Pretoria.South
Africa..
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
11:57 AM, okey iheduru <okeyiheduru@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just completed a 2-year
sabbatical/Fulbright Fellowship LEADS
Fellowship at the National Defense College, Abuja in Nigeria
during which I participated in six (6) National Universities
Commission (NUC) program
accreditation visits to one federal, two state and three
private
universities for Political Science and International
Relations, Economics and Sociology.
I learned a lot about the opportunities and challenges of
university education in Nigeria. I'll never forget many
of the exceptionally brilliant students my panels and i
interacted with as part of our assignment. Some economics
departments have advanced electronic labs for their formal
modelling/econometrics courses, while some programs have
easily accessible subscriptions to various research
databases for their electronic libraries. When time permits,
I'll do a proper write-up on my experiences, more
broadly.
I would like here to respond to the "Call for
Papers" from Unilag that asked prospective authors to
also send money. During the accreditation visits (which are
really meticulous and rigorous--I hope Oga Ikide is reading
this!), I found that while
quite a number of colleagues are doing serious scholarship,
the
overwhelming percentage is engaged in what you call
"Vanity" journal (and book) publishing. Every
department--100 PERCENT--that we evaluated had its own
"journal" which is "edited" in-house.
Thereafter the authors literally put a gun on the head of
administrators to count those "publications" as
part of the percentage of scholarship that can be locally
published. Even Colleges of Education and Polytechnics have
departmental journals in Nigeria--there was a CFP from one
of them on this list recently.
None of these "journals" is indexed, either
locally or internationally; so, colleagues who live/work
five kilometres away from the institutions may not even know
that such publications exist. Some institutions have been
posting some of their publications online to give them
visibility and possibly generate citation counts. There are
claims (I have no proof; it wasn't my charge) that some
of the articles are plagiarized or may even be exact copies
of papers published elsewhere with a new author and
institutional affiliation.
Sadly, there is no nation-wide outlet to present, publish
and/or professionally review recent work in the fields I
evaluated since, for instance, the once-famous Nigerian
Political Science Association and its journal died following
the zoning of its leadership to the North who must have
their "turn" at leading the association. A similar
fate has befallen many scholarly groups--the Historical
Society of Nigeria seems to be one of the few exceptions.
Asked why these colleagues shouldn't be reading and/or
publishing in outlets put out by older institutions with
seasoned academics with more credible track record, I was
hushed down with: "Why should we be reading their own?
Why can't they read our own [journals]?" A PhD is a
PhD, I was told, even if it's awarded by a two-year old
caricature of what others know as a university!
It's worth noting that in one state
university we visited, of the nine (9) lecturers on
the Sociology faculty, six (6) obtained their PhDs (as well
as their BSc and MSc degrees) from the same department! Not
only do you smell "in-breeding",you can assume
they were also taught and mentored by senior colleagues who
rose through the ranks based on publications in departmental
journals. Indeed, many colleagues on the Deans and VC ranks
today cut their academic teeth in the "Volume 1, Number
1" syndrome of the 1990s and early 2000s. It's
worth noting, though, that no more than 68 percent of
faculty in all Nigerian Universities have doctorates; not
easy to produce one, really.
It was amusing to find senior lecturers, associate
professors/readers and even full professors with 50-100
"scholarly papers" almost 9/10 of which appear in
these in-house and other publications. I'm not making
any judgement regarding the quality of these publications
since I have not read them. Yet, I find the culture very
worrisome. Sometimes "books" (especially edited
volumes) are published without a clear reason why such a
"scholarly book" should be published. I earned
some reputation as a snub whenever I explained my inability
to honor "Prof, can you please contribute a chapter for
my book" requests.
Many of these colleagues with very long list of
"scholarly papers" have fewer than five (5)
citation counts on Google Scholar, if at all they do. Of
course, many of us Diaspora academics have relatively very
little citation counts, never mind the amount of noise we
make all the time on this list. It must be stated that, as
at this point, the NUC has not taken up the responsibility
to regulate this aspect of academic quality--not sure it
should. What are department heads, deans, Senate and vice
chancellors supposed to do?
From our Diaspora stand point, many of these publications
are clearly "Vanity" journals and books, but the
reality is that it costs a lot of money to publish them.
Cash-trapped departments, faculties and/or universities have
more weighty priorities. Perhaps, a much better write-up
could have been on ideas/strategies to help these colleagues
to get out of these morass--many of them teach 3-4 courses
of 200-500 students a semester without TAs and get as small
as N10,000 a year for academic conference presentations. Any
ideas?
Regards,
Okey Iheduru.
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
8:56 AM, D Foreal <forealng@yahoo.com>
wrote:
This is a cash and carry journal.
Any right thinking academic should avoid this journal. It is
a vanity journal as in vanity press.
From: franklyne
ogbunwezeh <ogbunwezeh@yahoo.com>
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
<usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: Re:
USA Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics:
CALL FOR PAPERS
You guys are funny! I
should send money alongside my paper. This si really crazy.
Thanks no thanks.
Franklyne Ogbunwezeh
* **************
*************** ****************** ***************
***********
What constitutes a disservice to our faculty of judgment,
however, is to place obstacles in the way of assembling
truth's fragments, remaining content with a mere one- or
two-dimensional projection where a multidimensional and
multifaceted apprehension remains open, accessible and
instructive.
Wole Soyinka, Between Truth and
Indulgences
From: Dele Ashiru
<ashirudele@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
<usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent:
Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: USA
Africa Dialogue Series - UNILAG Journal of Politics: CALL
FOR PAPERS
Dear
All,
Please respond appropriately.Best wishes
'Dele
Ashiru.
Department of Political Science,
University of Lagos,
Lagos,Nigeria.
+234-8026274712, +234-8019119573.
http//:www.politicalscienceunilag.org
http//:www.unilag.edu.ng
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