gloria
i wonder if you are being fair to ikhide
he is very very critical of some figures in authority--in academe and in
govt. that is hardly "black people everywhere."
your post raises the question, how can one be critical, say of the
higher ed system in nigeria, without falling into the traps of
afropessimism. but you don't frame it that way; and you ignore how much
ikhide, more than any others on this list, has celebrated african
writing. he has done maybe more to celebrate and disseminate critical
voices and material in african lit than just about anyone i know. he
uses his list to present great writing to many people, and gives astute
judgments about the work. i value that quite a bit.
best
ken
On 9/5/13 10:14 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
> Both of you miss the point. Mr. Ikhide wants to expand his pool of 'followers, '
> and to do that he has to spew venom and self-hatred against Black people everywhere.
> This is more effective than an assassin's bullet or a KKK lynch mob.
>
> You are tagged a 'patronizer' if you attempt to introduce another dimension to an argument
> and supposedly you are a non- patronizer if you imbibe the venom.
>
> Rush Limbaugh, the King of haters in America today, has 1.2 million followers. How do you think he
> amassed that impressive 'following'?
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net
> vimeo.com/user5946750/videos
> Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cornelius Hamelberg [corneliushamelberg@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:54 AM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: For The Attention Of The Moderator
>
>
> On Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:51:28 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
> You're now petitioning our kind hearted Moderator Professor Falola as a servant of Ogun<https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Ogun+(+Yoruba> - the god of iron or Thor<https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Thor+(+Scandinavian> , ever ready with his hammer over a little bit of nothing....
> C'mon Chidi the poet, some tolerance please! Grant both yourself and others some reasonable degree of poet-ic license and the right/ freedom to let off some pent up steam (emotion)!
> What's wrong with immaculate conceptions such as "that body of thugs with PhDs"?
> Or even that body of mugs filled with PhDs?
> What's wrong with it raining cats and dogs?
> You know that there's some very strong language to be found in the Bible, in Dr. Johnson and in Shakespeare too...
> And dear Chidi, just in case someday you take part in the million dollar biblical quiz - and you the whiz are asked, "What is the shortest sentence in the Bible?" (Please don't ask which Bible) but the shortest sentence in the so called "New" testamente is, "Jesus wept" – two words. The human Jesus wept and if those tears dried up or evaporated then they are still in circulation presently part of some great big cloud floating over Kaduna or ... (use your imagination<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbJIB5y8ZTg>). Yes, God is everywhere – even there....
> And by the way, a happy new year to you too – Shana Tova it's the beginning of the year 5774 and May the year be sweet for all of us.....
> We Sweden<http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/>
>
>
>
> Moderator Sir,
>
> I have been wondering how some posts with expressions that fall far below the basic standard of decency in public discourse usually make it past the moderator's "hammer" in this tightly moderated forum. It could not have been a case of these expressions escaping the moderator's attention because they appear regularly, especially in "literary criticisms".
>
> Instead of the moderator's 'hammer" descending on whole topics, I suggest that the "hammer" should rather descend on posts with expressions like; "that body of thugs with PhDs" (reference to University lecturers in Nigeria).
>
> We can disagree and make our points without using expressions like the above.
>
> Be well sir,
>
> CAO.
>
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i wonder if you are being fair to ikhide
he is very very critical of some figures in authority--in academe and in
govt. that is hardly "black people everywhere."
your post raises the question, how can one be critical, say of the
higher ed system in nigeria, without falling into the traps of
afropessimism. but you don't frame it that way; and you ignore how much
ikhide, more than any others on this list, has celebrated african
writing. he has done maybe more to celebrate and disseminate critical
voices and material in african lit than just about anyone i know. he
uses his list to present great writing to many people, and gives astute
judgments about the work. i value that quite a bit.
best
ken
On 9/5/13 10:14 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
> Both of you miss the point. Mr. Ikhide wants to expand his pool of 'followers, '
> and to do that he has to spew venom and self-hatred against Black people everywhere.
> This is more effective than an assassin's bullet or a KKK lynch mob.
>
> You are tagged a 'patronizer' if you attempt to introduce another dimension to an argument
> and supposedly you are a non- patronizer if you imbibe the venom.
>
> Rush Limbaugh, the King of haters in America today, has 1.2 million followers. How do you think he
> amassed that impressive 'following'?
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net
> vimeo.com/user5946750/videos
> Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cornelius Hamelberg [corneliushamelberg@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:54 AM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: For The Attention Of The Moderator
>
>
> On Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:51:28 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
> You're now petitioning our kind hearted Moderator Professor Falola as a servant of Ogun<https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Ogun+(+Yoruba> - the god of iron or Thor<https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Thor+(+Scandinavian> , ever ready with his hammer over a little bit of nothing....
> C'mon Chidi the poet, some tolerance please! Grant both yourself and others some reasonable degree of poet-ic license and the right/ freedom to let off some pent up steam (emotion)!
> What's wrong with immaculate conceptions such as "that body of thugs with PhDs"?
> Or even that body of mugs filled with PhDs?
> What's wrong with it raining cats and dogs?
> You know that there's some very strong language to be found in the Bible, in Dr. Johnson and in Shakespeare too...
> And dear Chidi, just in case someday you take part in the million dollar biblical quiz - and you the whiz are asked, "What is the shortest sentence in the Bible?" (Please don't ask which Bible) but the shortest sentence in the so called "New" testamente is, "Jesus wept" – two words. The human Jesus wept and if those tears dried up or evaporated then they are still in circulation presently part of some great big cloud floating over Kaduna or ... (use your imagination<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbJIB5y8ZTg>). Yes, God is everywhere – even there....
> And by the way, a happy new year to you too – Shana Tova it's the beginning of the year 5774 and May the year be sweet for all of us.....
> We Sweden<http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/>
>
>
>
> Moderator Sir,
>
> I have been wondering how some posts with expressions that fall far below the basic standard of decency in public discourse usually make it past the moderator's "hammer" in this tightly moderated forum. It could not have been a case of these expressions escaping the moderator's attention because they appear regularly, especially in "literary criticisms".
>
> Instead of the moderator's 'hammer" descending on whole topics, I suggest that the "hammer" should rather descend on posts with expressions like; "that body of thugs with PhDs" (reference to University lecturers in Nigeria).
>
> We can disagree and make our points without using expressions like the above.
>
> Be well sir,
>
> CAO.
>
> --
> Chidi Anthony Opara<http://www.chidianthonyopara.blogspot.com> is the Publisher of PublicInformationProjects<http://www.publicinformationprojects.blogspot.com>
>
>
>
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