Chidi,
OK, s-ht happens, has happened. I watched this a few days ago :God wants you to let go of your past so you can have a future
So far Pope Francis has impressed me at least in his personal relationship with poverty and with the Jewish people.
I still can't understand why the history of the Catholic Church – the Inquisition followed a few hundred years later by what Roman Catholic adherents declare was Pope Pius vs. the Nazis etc. should still be a source of your current venom. I can understand that some of your rage is being fuelled by the priestly disciples of Jesus breaking their vows of brahmacharya by wanton acts of the on-going paedophilia which Church discipline has not been able to curb – perhaps because a lifelong vow of chastity is not consistent with the human nature of most males – as the Gospel itself asserts in the words attributed to Jesus, "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak ." In the more down to earth Islam, understandably, monkery is forbidden, even if some people are attracted to Islam lured by the idea that paradise is some kind of whorehouse, where man – even eunuchs - can fulfil their earthly passions on an even grander scale. So it comes as no surprise that their role model number one himself had thirteen wives (the other sheikhs and alhajjis legally limited to four wives - plus "those whom their right hands possess" (slaves and concubines).but four or thirteen wives is but a drop in the bucket – compared to King Solomon the Champion who according to popular legend had over 800 (eight hundred) wives – after all Eve was created – as the Almighty Himself said , as a help, so that man would not be alone.
Your main thrust is about what you call "Mafia" - I suppose you are talking about the Church's enormous wealth – and it's probably because of that wealth that celibacy has to be maintained – or the children would have to "inherit". Otherwise why do you talk about the Holy See in terms of criminal activity?
I have discussed this your saying with one of my friends, Emmanuel Ehirhieme of Edo State (Tribe : Esan: religion :Christian).
"While we were being taught in the Roman Catholic Church children's Sunday schools in the 1970s that it would be like the head of a camel passing through the eye of a needle for a wealthy person to enter heaven, the same Roman Catholic Church through the Vatican bank was busy acquiring wealth." ( Chidi Anthony Opara)
Emmanuel's bottom line: that prosperity is preached – it's not a sin to be prosperous. He also said that the poor man or poor nation has no voice. From an anarchist's point of view, "all property is theft" - but can we accuse the Catholic Church of stealing – bearing in mind/heart the Almighty's commandment Thou shalt not steal ?
One last question to you, Chidi : What are Catholics to do – Igbo Catholics in particular?
On Friday, 7 June 2013 16:54:40 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
Mazi,--
I do not want to be personal, so let us leave Arinze out of this. I
know enough of the history of the Papacy, including its major sources
of initial investments capital. I also suspect that you know. If Mazi
Francis Nwaneri Opara (my father) resurrects today and he is elected a
Pope (with God all things are possible), I will regard him as a Mafia
overlord. Mazi, I do not know about mature and amateur "poe it", I do
know that I agree with the opinion expressed in the post I was
responding to. Furthermore, whatever you think that is beneath me is
your subjective opinion, after all, some poets still maintain that
posting my poems on Internet forums and on social networks is beneath
me. Have that subjective opinion changed anything? Ndewo Mazi.
CAO.
On Jun 7, 1:04 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 2!
>
> Chidi! Chidi !Chidi!
>
> Now I chide you!
>
> "Tell fren true noh pwell fren "
>
> Surely, this is below you!
>
> A refined man like you wanna echo an amateur
>
> or mature poe-it talking through his orifice that
>
> "Popes fought for office
>
> like the nastiest of mafia
> bosses" ?
>
> Don't you think or know that with these very impious and un-poetic words
> that you utter through your keyboard you are thereby dis-respecting the
> religious chief of most of the world's Igbos?
> C'mon Brother I don't have to remind you that just a while ago nearly the
> whole of the former
>
> Biafra was clapping hands as prayerful cheerleaders and people of hope
>
> when advocating that Cardinal Francis Arinze should be elected Pope
>
> Now, if it had been the Conclave's will that he be elected Bishop of Rome,
> is this what you would be saying about him too – that he had been elected
> to be head of the holy Mafia etc. etc. - and yet you want to go to heaven,
> without a pardon?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 7 June 2013 12:23:04 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
>
> > "-----Popes fought for office like the nastiest of mafia
> > bosses---------"
> > ----Amatoritsero.
>
> > They were, and still are, Mafia bosses surround by all the
> > paraphernalia of Mafiadom. In the ages past, the instruments and
> > methods of enforcement were crude. Presently, they are refined.
>
> > CAO.
>
> > On Jun 6, 11:26 pm, Amatoritsero Ede <esula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ..."This was the dark ages in clerical as well as in any other term:
> > popes
> > > fought for office like the nastiest of mafia bosses; devilish intrigue
> > and
> > > executions were not exempt"...http://www.mtls.ca/issue15/editorial/
>
> > > Amatoritsero
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