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On May 13, 2014, at 1:59 AM, "BUSKA alaremu2007@gmail.com [Egbeodua]"<Egbeodua@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Alagba Onifade, can't you see that Leye Ige and his post no longer draw any response from right thinking folks around here?Since we have known him and all that he stands for, nobody takes him serious around hereLets wait and see what they will do, when it dawns on them that thy have lost Ekiti and Osun, since there will be no room for their rigging machineries as usual
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On May 12, 2014, at 8:57 PM, "Kolawole Onifade kol_onif@yahoo.com [Egbeodua]"<Egbeodua@yahoogroups.com> wrote:That analysis applies more to you! Your interpretation of "romanticism" is incomplete unless "trying to change things" does not include making strident and insistent noise on this listserve, pointing attention to the deceit, trickery and shenanigans of town criers. Pointing out spinners and hired pseudo-intellectuals.It is only a pseudo-intellectual that will define what we do (even as opposition) vacuously as "spreading discontent".And, as regards the UPN of yore, campaign slogan is not the same as arranged awards, meaningless foreign appearances and tasteless endorsements.Kola/
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On May 12, 2014, at 12:09 PM, "Leye Ige ige.leye@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver]"<NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com> wrote:"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are"--Henry Louis Meneken.
Relying on aspects of a quote/saying to satisfy some agenda falls FAR SHORT of rationality--it MUST be taken in its totality for it to pass muster, at least if we are supposedly in pursuit of rationality. As Meneken stated, a non-romantic personality is APT TO SPREAD DISCONTENT among those who are(which is the aim of ANY political opposition anyway). So, either way, whether "romantic" or not, rational or not--there is ALWAYS a PURPOSE behind everything. The issue then is the PURPOSE--and what each can identify with.
In the UPN days, at least in Oyo State, the UPN Government was vilified for asking students to carry their school desks, etc And YES, the UPN MADE NOISE about it--IT WAS THEIR CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, among others!!!!!!!!!!!. Jakande was excoriated for building "sheds" as schools etc etc.
Leye Ige
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Subject: [OmoOdua] Re: [NaijaPolitics] [isokanyoruba] Re: [NaijaBusiness] O' Lies: the Lies and Deception of Raufu
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Date: Monday, May 12, 2014, 5:39 AM
Baba wa
Professor
Adeboye, Your
response to mine makes an interesting and emotive reading
indeed. Agba ko ni tan lori ile sir. E pe fun wa o.
Amin. I
must quickly note here that my designation of the Raufu
O'Meals program as deceptive is not a blanket
condemnation of that program. I'd rather you paid closer
attention to the newspaper story that called for my
designation. The story made it clear that the program was
initiated by Raufu's predecessor Olagunsoye Oyinlola!
And, to think that Oyinlola, nay all PDP governments in the
SW have been broadly classified as non-performing! So, I
thought to myself, here we go again! The ACN (now APC)
governments have mastered the art of deception. They
appropriate their predecessors'
initiatives and programs, probably fine tune it (as in this
case) or even add nothing (as in the case of Fayemi's
claim of Oni's road projects as his); and present
themselves as original thinkers in the mould of the late
sage Obafemi Awolowo (SAW). In fact, I have read some people
on this forum equate Raufu with Awolowo. Such
blasphemy! Henry
Louis Meneken was quoted as once saying that: "the most
dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to
think things out for himself .......... Almost inevitably,
he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives
under is dishonest, INSANE (emphasis
mine) and
intolerable." Wow!
Sir, can you see the rationale in holding the rather
controversial view that the APC government foisted on the SW
is "dishonest, INSANE and
intolerable"? Sir,
you will agree with me that sanity implies rational
thinking. Rational decision making implies an ability to
match resources with programs and projects. Matching
resources implies an ability to gauge the ability of an
entity (in this case a State) to sustain any given program
over time. Gauging the ability of Osun State to sustain a
lot of Raufu's programs implies taking into cognizance
the internally generated revenue of the State (shorn of
Federal Allocation), the capacity of the State to go into
debt, the necessity of such debt given the economic
realities of the State among other
factors. Accepting
that the O'Meals program is necessary and rational sir,
is the implementation sustainable over time? Now, we hear of
contractors cutting corners and the tendency to cut back on
the quality. School realignment program is one that
will blow in our face in a short while. For instance, I
mentioned the issue of location vis-à-vis students'
residence. I also mentioned the fact that we are likely
going to have over stretched students who will be forced to
trek long distances to their schools, fatigued as a result,
unable to concentrate in class, perform poorly as
a consequence and grow up to become frustrated,
unemployable youths with no
future. Then,
I saw an assemblage of buses presented for photo effect as
answers to the problems raised. And, I had a hearty laugh! I
laughed at the insincerity of Raufu and his APC appendages
and town criers. I also laughed at the glaring foolishness
of the poor idea. First, I looked at the number of buses.
Then I asked myself: how many routes can these few buses
cover? Second, for how long will these buses "shining
gbinrin gbinrin" operate before break downs,
operational costs and the
"Nigerian factor" make them inoperable or out
rightly impossible for the State to continue? But then, that
matters only to a government that thinks any policy through.
But for a Raufu who presents himself as a Know All, a modern
day Orunmila or even an Awolowo incarnate what matters
is the end. And, here, the end is the second term election.
Take my word for it, nothing matters after the August
election. The buses might as well be under an hire purchase
agreement to last till
then! Now,
I come to the account you gave of how you muddled through
school through the pangs of hunger and deprivations. Sir,
that resonates with me. I was once there sir. I grew up
without knowing any of my parents who were deceased when I
was just a year and ten months. I grew up with my maternal
grandma who in turn lived with his son (my mum's
brother) in Lagos. As good natured as my uncle is, you will
agree with me sir,
that I knew my limitations. In fact, my innate ability to
perceive human character was developed as an orphan. My
uncle took me to Abeokuta where he worked as a manager in a
multi-national company at Ibara. He enrolled me at age 4 in
the Primary School. However, the entire family (including my
grandma and his wife who had a good job in Lagos) all lived
in his house at Lagos. We travelled to Lagos every Friday
afternoon to return to Abeokuta on Monday morning. I felt
lost and lonely as he most times did not return home from
work until later in the evening. However, I was not hungry.
But, I used to trek from Igbehin (where we first lived) and
later Igbore to Isabo where my school was. Later, he
voluntarily retired from service when he was posted to Lagos
to take on full missionary work with a Church that was not
paying any meaningful salary (the Pastor of that Church had
died and though he had a secular work he was sort of
assisting the man as he was
always going there after work each day. That explains for
his late arrival home). This is where I am
going. When
my Uncle took on the missionary work, my secondary education
was almost terminated. However, that same year (1978), the
Obasanjo Regime adopted the UBE Scheme which rubbed off on
secondary schools somehow. And, in 1979, the late Olabisi
Onabanjo became governor under the UPN. That year, as a Form
Three student, I was given all the textbooks and exercise
books free. Also, there was no tuition
paid. I
noticed that there was no noise made. They just supplied us
all the books which we treated as babies (carefully wrapped)
to avoid stains as we were to return them for the next set.
It afforded me the grace of education. And, the UPN did all
that without putting the States into
debt! It
is instructive to note here, Sir, that the then Oyo State
encompassed the present Osun State while the
present Ekiti State was part of Ondo
State. What
do we see now? A government of adeptly corrupt enemies of
the people. Wolves in sheep skin masquerading as
progressives. People who lack original ideas, appropriating
the predecessors' idea (which is not wrong), but lacking
the moral fiber to acknowledge as
much! I
decided to write this long treatise in order to make
myself
clear. I
only hope that you understand me better now
Sir. Regards. Kola/ On Sunday, May 11,
2014 11:11 PM, "Adeniran Adeboye aadeboye@mac.com
[NaijaPolitics]"<NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Dear Aburo Peter [or
Peteru],
Many thanks for
sharing your story also. All these stories serve to tell us
that no condition is really permanent.
Best,
Adeniran Adeboye
On
May 11, 2014, at 10:44 PM, peter opara wrote:
Egbon Ade,
I
am intrigued when I read or hear stories such as yours. I
really respect and admire you for laying your life out so
clearly for all to read. You know I call you Egbon for every
right reasons, politics aside. Some have wondered why I
respect and admire you, when they observe that we may, and
do in fact disagree politically, especially regarding the
man who I now know made life a little easier for you. Well,
because my sense never leads me astray; and so it was
reading you for the first time hereabouts that you are a
fine man, and as decent as humanly possible. Now, the story
of your life you narrated that began a couple of years
before I was born is something I cannot relate to. One of my
cousins from my mother's side, once told a similar
story of his life growing up. He attended school in the
village, adorned with a towel-like clothe he used to cover
himself. His life's story was so strange, I had to blurt
out, asking him - were you that poor?! Wow. This man later
rose as high as any could rise in Nigeria's civil
service. We were actually in his house in Victoria Island
when he narrated his life's story. Something about
similar to your story about me that I can tell was a teacher
pocketing the money my father gave him to register me in a
municipal school when we moved from Umukurushe to inner city
in Ph, and the head master having to mark me as one who did
not pay his fees or so, and having to make sure I did not
attend classes. My father quickly took care of the
situation, once I hinted him what was going on. Other than
that, I never knew how and when my school fees were paid. I
did not even know how much my school fees was. This was
early to to mid 60s - my infant days. However, Egbon, to
think that some children llead lives similar to yours in the
early 50s is something that calls for drastic, if not
revolutionary change. And the revolution I think is not
earth shaking. It is just to ensure that children have
breakfast everyday at school, even lunch. Nobody learns a
thing in an empty stomach, worse so children. I tried
establishing a foundation on health and literacy in my parts
in the early 80s to cater just to this simple children's
needs. Health and literacy were in fact my father's
passion that I observed during the Biafra/Nigeria war. That
endeavor took me to Geneva and France meeting with UN
Officials for co-operation. It was then that I discovered
that the reason why no one feels the impact of the UN in a
place like Nigeria for instance is because, the UN does
nothing in any country without going through the home
government. In other words, the UN never goes directly to
places of impact to apply their educational or health
remedies or assists. Any way Egbon, we all have our stories,
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