Indeed, the faint hearted should not read sentiments on the centenary of the Land Act-re: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23landact1913
"Awaking on Friday morning, June 20, 1913, the South African Native found himself, not actually a slave, but a pariah in the land of his birth" - Sol Plaatje (Native Life in South Africa, 1916); epigraphed in the news on the CONFERENCE ON LAND, RACE AND NATION IN SOUTH AFRICA: A CENTURY OF DISPOSSESSION (1913-2013)
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>
> To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:53 PM
> Subject: RE: FW: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Let me add that the faint hearted should not read South African newspapers.
>
> There are articles about land reform, the return of remains from the apartheid
> era,
> race relations today, Mandela's legacy and lots more.
>
> This is a historical moment with a flood of contemporaneous information
> for the historian. But as I said before, if you have a faint heart, go read
> something else.
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net
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> Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ibrahim Abdullah [ibdullah@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:25 PM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FW: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World
> leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
>
> No such thing as a 'fantastic pla ce in history'. It all depends on who
> is telling the story/writing the history.
>
> Ib
> -------
>
> On Jun 18, 2013 3:28 PM, "kenneth harrow"
> <harrow@msu.edu<mailto:harrow@msu.edu>> wrote:
> what did mugabe do with the lands he seized?? the mines he distributed to the
> army? was it justice that was served, or paying off his supporters and worse?
> ngugi wrote the book on corrupt land practices in kenya. i haven't seen
> anything to make me think it was any better in zimbabwe.
> i wish i could cite great things about s africa. what i've seen is that they
> are making all the right moves concerning land and housing, but at a scale that
> is too small to really resolve the economic injustices.
> and against that, indictments of the anc are very powerfully argued.
> ken
>
> On 6/18/13 10:59 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
> Peter Fabricius, a white south African judging from his photo,
>
> writes in the article earlier cited:
>
> "Remember Mandela conceded nothing of democracy"
>
> "....Yet Mandela still managed to reassure whites, essentially by the great
> force of his personality
> within the ANC and without and by a symbolic gesture like donning the no. 6
> green jersey at the
> Rugby World Cup final in 1995, inviting his jailers to his inauguration and
> having tea with Betsy Verwoerd.
>
> But he conceded nothing of democracy, his detractors today should be reminded.
>
> Could he have done more for black South Africans, As his ex-wife evidently
> believes?
> Should he have seized white farms and businesses like Robert Mugabe.
>
> Perhaps.
>
> But then he would have had a war on his hands because whites, remember, still
> controlled all
> security agencies, Not even Mugabe tried that, at the point of
> transition......."
>
> AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
> ...........................................................................
>
>
> Another headline in the Pretoria news. Friday June 14
>
> "White Black divide wide as ever."
>
> Sisonke Msimang, Exec. Director of the Open Society Foundation of SA
>
> "Our malls and our beaches, our gyms and our restaurants; these are open
> toall racesBut is you look beyond
> the gleaming surface of shopping malls, you will noteice that within the public
> spaces that we occupy side by side we
> rarely mix. We are like oil and water sitting on the same bowl."
>
> Misimang concludes with this :
> "Today the reconciliation process has been abandoned, and it
> shows......."
>
> But if ever there was a time to pick up the conversation in earnest where we
> left it a decade ago when the final
> report of the TRC was signed off, it would be now...Perhaps this could be the
> parting gift to
> Madiba.........
>
> AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
>
> GE
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net<http://africahistory.net>
> vimeo.com/user5946750/videos<http://vimeo.com/user5946750/videos>
> Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
> ________________________________________
> From:
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
> [emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:55 AM
> To:
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> I believe it was just an exaggeration. I have come to the conclusion that
>
> while Black South Africans respect Nelson Mandela they have a more sober
>
> view of him than the media would like us to believe.Writing in Pretoria News.
> Friday June 14, 2013.
>
> Peter Fabricius (don't know if this name is fabricated or real) wrote:
>
>
>
> 'It's true that Mandela is perhaps more revered by foreigners and-for
> obvious reasons- white South Africans
>
> than by many black South Africans -including his ex-wife Winnie Madikizela
> Mandela.'
>
>
>
> He then quoted Winnie Mandela's statement about Nelson:
>
>
>
> " Mandela let us down. He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically
> we are still on the
>
> outside."
>
> So when we evaluate Obama Mandela we have to be cautious.In any case
>
> the talk about the mountains of letters is quite false and even unnecessary.
> Whether there
>
> are a thousand letters or just ten- Mandela will still have a fantastic place
> in history.
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net<http://africahistory.net>
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> ________________________________________
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> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Assensoh, Akwasi B.
> [aassenso@indiana.edu<mailto:aassenso@indiana.edu>]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 6:08 AM
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> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Professor Gloria:
>
> Many thanks for the refreshing news from South Africa. As a fellow historian, I
> was a bit perplexed to read earlier (before your posting) that a mountain of
> letters of support were left at the gate of Mr. Mandela's clinic or
> hospital. I wondered if they won't get wet in case it rains, but I am glad
> to know that only a dozen of such letters are there. Did they remove the
> mountain of letters and, possibly, left the latest ones, or it was just an
> exaggeration? My family and I are following Sky News and BBC news reports from
> the "Queendom" (UK).
>
> Have a safe trip back, as we await more "dateline South Africa"
> postings from you, a very reliable source.
>
> With gratitude,
> A.B. Assensoh.
>
> ________________________________________
> From:
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> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>]
> on behalf of Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
> [emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>]
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:15 PM
> To:
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Well first of all let me say that I believe that Winnie has been a regular
> visitor to the hospital.
>
> I may have missed her by some minutes
> when I decided to go by the Medi-Heart Clinic myself-
> where he is now located- to look around.
>
> What stunned me was the long line of paparazzi and media
> satellites lining the street....about two dozen at least.
> Call it a caravan of video cameras and equipment.
>
> Two friendly South African cops asked me for my permit
> but I let them know that I was just an ordinary onlooker.
> They joked and told me to pluck a leaf of a flower plant nearby
> in memory of the visit.
>
> When I discovered that my hotel was only 15 minutes away
> from the Clinic I decided that I had to see for myself. As for the mountain
> of letters
> of support on the gate of the hospital - that the international press
> talked about - well I only saw about a dozen letters.
>
> Meanwhile former ANC member, the charismatic Malema
> launched his party during the week - after
> he was relieved of most of his property, by court order.
> I was reminded that president Zuma may not have gotten in power
> without his support. Now they have fallen out.
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> africahistory.net<http://africahistory.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:08 AM
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> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
>
>
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>
> World leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
> By News Express,
> newsexpressngr.com<http://newsexpressngr.com><http://newsexpressngr.com>,
> on 15/06/2013
>
> Leaders across the world are bracing up for the death of former South African
> President Nelson Mandela, which could take place within days, going by his
> present health outlook. The iconic Mandela has been hospitalised again in
> serious condition for a lung condition since last week Saturday and prayers are
> being offered for his recovery.
>
> Officials in Washington and around the world are bracing for the death of the
> longtime civil rights leader, according to Washington Examiner.
>
> "It looks bad. Washington is keeping a close eye on the former leader and civil
> rights hero," the paper quoted one U.S. official as saying.
>
> Washington Examiner said "expectations are that President Obama and possibly
> former Presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush would attend a
> funeral," adding that "no travel plans have been made, however."
>
> Mandela, who spent 27 years in prison before being freed and eventually winning
> the presidency, has been in a Pretoria hospital since exactly a week ago, his
> fourth hospital trip for lung ailments.
>
> "World leaders were shaken when Zuma on Saturday appealed for prayers and
> Mandela's wife, children's rights activist Graca Machel, canceled a speech in
> Britain to remain by his side," Washington Examiner reported.
>
> It said that "news reports noted that comments from South African officials have
> been suggesting that Mandela is near death. Jackson Mthembu, spokesman for the
> African National Congress, told Sky News that the party was 'prepared for the
> worst.' Even Mandela's estranged wife Winnie visited him."
>
> Back in March, there was another health scare for Mandela, but he recovered. He
> contracted tuberculosis while he was in jail for fighting apartheid. Freed in
> 1990, Mandela was elected president four years later. He helped to heal the
> years of segregation and rejected calls to continue in office beyond the first
> term.
>
> •Photo: Mandela.
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> From: "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>
> To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:53 PM
> Subject: RE: FW: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Let me add that the faint hearted should not read South African newspapers.
>
> There are articles about land reform, the return of remains from the apartheid
> era,
> race relations today, Mandela's legacy and lots more.
>
> This is a historical moment with a flood of contemporaneous information
> for the historian. But as I said before, if you have a faint heart, go read
> something else.
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
> africahistory.net
> vimeo.com/user5946750/videos
> Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ibrahim Abdullah [ibdullah@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:25 PM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FW: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World
> leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
>
> No such thing as a 'fantastic pla ce in history'. It all depends on who
> is telling the story/writing the history.
>
> Ib
> -------
>
> On Jun 18, 2013 3:28 PM, "kenneth harrow"
> <harrow@msu.edu<mailto:harrow@msu.edu>> wrote:
> what did mugabe do with the lands he seized?? the mines he distributed to the
> army? was it justice that was served, or paying off his supporters and worse?
> ngugi wrote the book on corrupt land practices in kenya. i haven't seen
> anything to make me think it was any better in zimbabwe.
> i wish i could cite great things about s africa. what i've seen is that they
> are making all the right moves concerning land and housing, but at a scale that
> is too small to really resolve the economic injustices.
> and against that, indictments of the anc are very powerfully argued.
> ken
>
> On 6/18/13 10:59 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:
> Peter Fabricius, a white south African judging from his photo,
>
> writes in the article earlier cited:
>
> "Remember Mandela conceded nothing of democracy"
>
> "....Yet Mandela still managed to reassure whites, essentially by the great
> force of his personality
> within the ANC and without and by a symbolic gesture like donning the no. 6
> green jersey at the
> Rugby World Cup final in 1995, inviting his jailers to his inauguration and
> having tea with Betsy Verwoerd.
>
> But he conceded nothing of democracy, his detractors today should be reminded.
>
> Could he have done more for black South Africans, As his ex-wife evidently
> believes?
> Should he have seized white farms and businesses like Robert Mugabe.
>
> Perhaps.
>
> But then he would have had a war on his hands because whites, remember, still
> controlled all
> security agencies, Not even Mugabe tried that, at the point of
> transition......."
>
> AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
> ...........................................................................
>
>
> Another headline in the Pretoria news. Friday June 14
>
> "White Black divide wide as ever."
>
> Sisonke Msimang, Exec. Director of the Open Society Foundation of SA
>
> "Our malls and our beaches, our gyms and our restaurants; these are open
> toall racesBut is you look beyond
> the gleaming surface of shopping malls, you will noteice that within the public
> spaces that we occupy side by side we
> rarely mix. We are like oil and water sitting on the same bowl."
>
> Misimang concludes with this :
> "Today the reconciliation process has been abandoned, and it
> shows......."
>
> But if ever there was a time to pick up the conversation in earnest where we
> left it a decade ago when the final
> report of the TRC was signed off, it would be now...Perhaps this could be the
> parting gift to
> Madiba.........
>
> AND THERE YOU HAVE IT.
>
> GE
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
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> ________________________________________
> From:
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
> [emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:55 AM
> To:
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> I believe it was just an exaggeration. I have come to the conclusion that
>
> while Black South Africans respect Nelson Mandela they have a more sober
>
> view of him than the media would like us to believe.Writing in Pretoria News.
> Friday June 14, 2013.
>
> Peter Fabricius (don't know if this name is fabricated or real) wrote:
>
>
>
> 'It's true that Mandela is perhaps more revered by foreigners and-for
> obvious reasons- white South Africans
>
> than by many black South Africans -including his ex-wife Winnie Madikizela
> Mandela.'
>
>
>
> He then quoted Winnie Mandela's statement about Nelson:
>
>
>
> " Mandela let us down. He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically
> we are still on the
>
> outside."
>
> So when we evaluate Obama Mandela we have to be cautious.In any case
>
> the talk about the mountains of letters is quite false and even unnecessary.
> Whether there
>
> are a thousand letters or just ten- Mandela will still have a fantastic place
> in history.
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050
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> ________________________________________
> From:
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> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Assensoh, Akwasi B.
> [aassenso@indiana.edu<mailto:aassenso@indiana.edu>]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 6:08 AM
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> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Professor Gloria:
>
> Many thanks for the refreshing news from South Africa. As a fellow historian, I
> was a bit perplexed to read earlier (before your posting) that a mountain of
> letters of support were left at the gate of Mr. Mandela's clinic or
> hospital. I wondered if they won't get wet in case it rains, but I am glad
> to know that only a dozen of such letters are there. Did they remove the
> mountain of letters and, possibly, left the latest ones, or it was just an
> exaggeration? My family and I are following Sky News and BBC news reports from
> the "Queendom" (UK).
>
> Have a safe trip back, as we await more "dateline South Africa"
> postings from you, a very reliable source.
>
> With gratitude,
> A.B. Assensoh.
>
> ________________________________________
> From:
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> on behalf of Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
> [emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>]
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:15 PM
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> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| World leaders
> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
> Well first of all let me say that I believe that Winnie has been a regular
> visitor to the hospital.
>
> I may have missed her by some minutes
> when I decided to go by the Medi-Heart Clinic myself-
> where he is now located- to look around.
>
> What stunned me was the long line of paparazzi and media
> satellites lining the street....about two dozen at least.
> Call it a caravan of video cameras and equipment.
>
> Two friendly South African cops asked me for my permit
> but I let them know that I was just an ordinary onlooker.
> They joked and told me to pluck a leaf of a flower plant nearby
> in memory of the visit.
>
> When I discovered that my hotel was only 15 minutes away
> from the Clinic I decided that I had to see for myself. As for the mountain
> of letters
> of support on the gate of the hospital - that the international press
> talked about - well I only saw about a dozen letters.
>
> Meanwhile former ANC member, the charismatic Malema
> launched his party during the week - after
> he was relieved of most of his property, by court order.
> I was reminded that president Zuma may not have gotten in power
> without his support. Now they have fallen out.
>
>
>
> Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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>
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> prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: isaac umunna
>
> World leaders prepare for Nelson Mandela's death
> By News Express,
> newsexpressngr.com<http://newsexpressngr.com><http://newsexpressngr.com>,
> on 15/06/2013
>
> Leaders across the world are bracing up for the death of former South African
> President Nelson Mandela, which could take place within days, going by his
> present health outlook. The iconic Mandela has been hospitalised again in
> serious condition for a lung condition since last week Saturday and prayers are
> being offered for his recovery.
>
> Officials in Washington and around the world are bracing for the death of the
> longtime civil rights leader, according to Washington Examiner.
>
> "It looks bad. Washington is keeping a close eye on the former leader and civil
> rights hero," the paper quoted one U.S. official as saying.
>
> Washington Examiner said "expectations are that President Obama and possibly
> former Presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush would attend a
> funeral," adding that "no travel plans have been made, however."
>
> Mandela, who spent 27 years in prison before being freed and eventually winning
> the presidency, has been in a Pretoria hospital since exactly a week ago, his
> fourth hospital trip for lung ailments.
>
> "World leaders were shaken when Zuma on Saturday appealed for prayers and
> Mandela's wife, children's rights activist Graca Machel, canceled a speech in
> Britain to remain by his side," Washington Examiner reported.
>
> It said that "news reports noted that comments from South African officials have
> been suggesting that Mandela is near death. Jackson Mthembu, spokesman for the
> African National Congress, told Sky News that the party was 'prepared for the
> worst.' Even Mandela's estranged wife Winnie visited him."
>
> Back in March, there was another health scare for Mandela, but he recovered. He
> contracted tuberculosis while he was in jail for fighting apartheid. Freed in
> 1990, Mandela was elected president four years later. He helped to heal the
> years of segregation and rejected calls to continue in office beyond the first
> term.
>
> •Photo: Mandela.
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