Segun,
Many thanks for your patronizing, condescending retort to my views on Niyi Osundare's patronizing condescending response to an unnecessary debate...
I am curious. I have stalked the present generation of writers for quite a while. They seem, like their musical counterparts and the founders of Nollywood, to be quite independent of the older generation
My sense is that while they respect and perhaps admire the older generation of writers, they feel disconnected from them. I sense that they feel the older generation from Soyinka to Ikhide have not been as supportive and helpful as they could be, that they have been self absorbed and narcissistic.
I feel that they believe the older generation is always talking down to them, hardly ever helpful. They feel self-made. Dunno. Any truth to this? I quite agree just so you know...
My sense is that while they respect and perhaps admire the older generation of writers, they feel disconnected from them. I sense that they feel the older generation from Soyinka to Ikhide have not been as supportive and helpful as they could be, that they have been self absorbed and narcissistic.
I feel that they believe the older generation is always talking down to them, hardly ever helpful. They feel self-made. Dunno. Any truth to this? I quite agree just so you know...
Many African intellectuals are incapable of respectful dialogue with each other, then I see them with white folks; obsequious & respectful. Do you need proof of that? Simply go through their Facebook and Twitter timelines. Inferiority complex. Africa will start making progress the day our intellectuals start talking to us as if they are talking to white folks. *cycles away slowly*
To use a playwright's dialogue, this is what I mean:
White Man: Africa is a county!!
African intellectual: Hmmm, Jeff, I find your take on Africa quite interesting. Would you mind sharing a bit, the context for your eclectic rumination? Nice loafers by the way!
Black Man: Africa is a country!
African Intellectual! You are a fool! You are an idiot! No wonder Africa is in the shape that it is in! Bastard buffoon! Why am I even in your presence?
Colonial mentality? Inferiority complex? Self loathing? The Naipaul in us?
SMH...
African intellectual: Hmmm, Jeff, I find your take on Africa quite interesting. Would you mind sharing a bit, the context for your eclectic rumination? Nice loafers by the way!
Black Man: Africa is a country!
African Intellectual! You are a fool! You are an idiot! No wonder Africa is in the shape that it is in! Bastard buffoon! Why am I even in your presence?
Colonial mentality? Inferiority complex? Self loathing? The Naipaul in us?
SMH...
Please read and think about these things... Here...
- Ikhide
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From: Segun Ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com>
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Faux Storms: Niyi Osundare on Achebe, Soyinka, Biafra and fathers
Ikhide,
You are entitled to your literary vituperation on Pa Awololowo but it is a demonstration of your hatred and disrespect for the Sage. I think you should find something more reasonable to write on.
Achebe was a great storyteller. He should be accorded a huge respect for his contributions to African literature. Be that as it may, I think it is not true that he was the father of African literature.
We need not look for anyone to be deified as the father of African literature because it (African literature) has no parents-father and mother.
Segun Ogungbemi.
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--Please read today's Kabir Alabi Garba's interview of Professor Niyi Osundare in the Guardian, (Who Begat Literature, August 9, 2013). Ugh! Just when you think that certain issues have been laid to rest, someone comes along and asks the same questions over and over again. So, Garba asks Osundare about the dust-up regarding Achebe as the Founder of African literature, Achebe's legacy, and of course, Achebe's controversial best-seller, There Was A Country, the last book he wrote before he passed away ( Read my thoughts on the book here).I respect and admire Professor Osundare immensely but the interview does him a great injustice. Our newspapers have invested in mediocrity. There is a reason why the reading culture is dying in Nigeria, these newspapers are not much better than akara wrappers. This interview should have been heavily edited, grammatical challenges make this long rambling interview remarkable in its shoddiness. The responses could have used a weed whacker. I always thought Professor Osundare's strength was in the simplicity and grace of his prose. For a while there I was sure that it was Patrick Obahiagbon venting. Let's examine his response on the Father of Literature nonsense:"The so-called 'debate' rankles in its utter banality and jejuneness. It's nothing short of an exercise in false – but mischievous – genealogy, a nauseatingly egregious time-waster. As a writer, thinker, and humanist democrat, I'm averse to all kinds of assigned, imposed hierarchies and orchestrated myths of origin… 'Who Is the Father of African literature'? Let us go ridiculously biblical and reframe the question: Who Begat African Literature? Yes, it's that ludicrous… Well if we designate somebody — whether it's Achebe or Soyinka — as the father of African literature, who then would be the 'Mother of African literature'? Where, then, are the children of African literature? I think this Father designation is a manifestation of the Nigerian habit of overpraising public figures and privileging them into autocratic arrogance. This patriarchalisation is just one step short of utter deification, one of the notorious practices of Nigeria's public life. I don't think any author worth his/her salt would be eager to don this mantle. African literature could do without this primogenitorial distraction."Why are Nigerians being berated for what they did not do? We do not stay up at night worrying about who birthed African literature. Osundare is dead wrong when he says "we have to trace the origin of this Father - designation to critics, theorists, camp followers and praise singers." Soyinka and Osundare should take their gripe to the Nobel laureate, Professor Nadine Gordimer of South Africa, yes, South Africa, NOT Nigeria. She it was in 2007 who called Achebe the "father of modern African literature" as one of the judges to award him the Man Booker prize. Google it.Read the rest of my thoughts here...http://xokigbo.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/faux-storms-niyi-osundare-on-achebe-soyinka-biafra-and-fathers/- IkhideStalk my blog at www.xokigbo.comFollow me on Twitter: @ikhideJoin me on Facebook: www.facebook.com/ikhide
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