It is unfortunate that it is not possible to keep mute because without
saying anything the ills cannot be corrected. It is through discuss
that things can be put in proper perspectives and faults can be
pointed out for the required corrective ammendment.
The issue Obasanjo raised is very good but like Nkolika pointed out, I
wonder why he did not see himself as one of the bad leaders we have
produced in Nigeria and again as rightly pointed out above by Oshin,
he has been the luckiest person in Nigeria to have lead Nigeria for
the number of times and years. Despite that opportunity he cannot be
categorised along the line he is trying to portray himself.
He is the person that all Nigerians suppose to line-up behind but
unfortunately he did not in totality deserve it. He could correct BUT
he should listen to others with intention of making constructive
criticism and not to feel he is the only one that knows the solution
to the problems of Nigeria. Obasanjo is well respected everywhere
(those who did not like him knows that fact) BUT he did not actually
do what he should have done in Nigeria.
Yes he might understood Nigeria so well, BUT he did not carry out any
surgical operations that could cleans Nigeria yet he will be talking
at every given opportunity as if he did all and other persons were
working against him. When he was leading the nation, he had so much
power, he knew how he could use the power BUT failed to do the needful
that could put Nigeria back to shape for the selfish reason best known
to him. He should stop painting Atiku and others as bad- at least he
climb them all to get to power with all of us believing that
definitely Nigeria would get back to her rightful place in the comity
of nations only for him to leave too many things undone. Who can have
his type of opportunity again? Can anybody look at Obasanjo in the
face the way they looked at late President Yaradua and now President
Jonathan and the person will not ....eat his yam raw .
He should know that he disappointed many people (I know his position
would be I dont know what I am talking about; which I will never
agreed to - because he had absolute power looking at the way he ran
the show during his dispensation) and start to contribute meaningfully
well on how to make ammendment instead of painting people black.
Fine, those he he is painting are not clean, we have heard that
several times. With the hindsight of the experiences he has as the
case is now, he should help see that things are better done now;
partake in seeing that right things are done and good person who can
actually help lead Nigeria is installed come 2015. I believe he knows
very well all that are jostling for the post of the president better
than so many of us. He should forget his grandiose and concentrate on
the move to see how things will be better for the common man. He
should work to see that it is that person be it PDP or APC or LP that
actually win. He will never be forgotten for doing that.
May God lead us aright.
On 8/14/13, Nkolika Ebele <nkolikae@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is Obasanjo not one of the curses on Nigeria? I wonder why he cannot see
> that.
> Nkolika
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>
> To: dialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:28 PM
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Obasanjo: Nigeria is Jinxed
>
>
>
> Nigeria Is Jinxed, Cursed Says Former President Obasanjo-PREMIUM TIMES
> August 13, 2013 - 17:36 — siteadmin
>
> caption: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo
> By Jide Jegede
> While reviewing Nigeria's history since independence, former President
> Olusegun Obasanjo said the country may have been cursed with poor and
> irresponsible leaders. Mr. Obasanjo, who gave the keynote address at the 4th
> Annual Ibadan Sustainable Development Summit organised by Centre for
> Sustainable Development, University of Ibadan, in collaboration with African
> Sustainable Development Network, on Tuesday, said if Nigerians were yet to
> commend a leader after 53 years of independence, "Then we are jinxed and
> cursed; we should all go to hell." He also condemned the younger generation
> of leaders in the country, saying they lack integrity and probity and have
> failed their people woefully. Making specific reference to his Vice
> President for eight years, Atiku Abubakar; former governor of Lagos State,
> Bola Tinubu; former Speaker, House of Representatives, Salisu Buhari; former
> Bayelsa State Governor, Deprieye Alamieyeseigha; and others as younger
> generation of leaders, the former President said Nigeria was not lucky even
> with them. "We had some people who were under 50years in leadership
> positions. One of them was James Ibori, where is he today? One of them was
> Alamieyeseigha, where is he today? Lucky Igbinedion, where is he today? "The
> youngest was the Speaker, (Salisu) Buhari; you can still recall what
> happened to him. You said Bola Tinubu is your master. What Buhari did was
> not anything worse than what Bola Tinubu did. "We got them impeached. But in
> this part of the world some people covered up the other man. The man claimed
> he went to Government College, Ibadan but the governor (Oyo State) went to
> Government College and packed all the documents so that they would not know
> that he did not go there. "I wanted someone who would succeed me so I took
> Atiku. Within a year, I started seeing the type of man Atiku is. And you
> want me to get him there? "I once went to Tanzania because Julius
> Nyerere recognised Biafra. He told me not to mind his aides and others in
> government. They would say they have one house in town but their five year
> old sons and daughters would have houses all over. "Some of you who are
> condemning the leadership would get there tomorrow and it will be a
> different story. Only very few are actually good. "Abacha, my predecessor
> got $750m. Through our lawyer in Switzerland we recovered $1.25bn and the
> lawyer still said there is probably still another $1bn to be recovered. In
> 1979 we had 20 new ships specially built for Nigeria. When I came back 20
> years after, the national shipping line had liquidated. "The whole thing is
> not just about leadership. If we talk about good leadership you should also
> talk about good followers. If you talk about human right you should also
> talk about human duties and obligations. "It is sad that after 53years of
> independence we have no leader that we can commend. The problem in Africa
> is that when one person takes over he would not see any good thing that his
> predecessor did. Let us condemn but with caution," the former military ruler
> and two-term democractically elected president said. The Vice-Chancellor of
> the University of Ibadan, Isaac Adewole said he was worried about the fate
> that could befall the country as she holds her general elections in 2015.
> "We have not raised question about the scenario where 35 people found it
> difficult to conduct credible election in this country," the don said in
> reference to the election of the Chairman of the Nigeria Governors Forum
> that has polarized Nigeria's 36 state governors.
>
> __._,_.___
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> Toyin Falola
> Department of History
> The University of Texas at Austin
> 104 Inner Campus Drive
> Austin, TX 78712-0220
> USA
> 512 475 7224
> 512 475 7222 (fax)
> http://www.toyinfalola.com
> http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa
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saying anything the ills cannot be corrected. It is through discuss
that things can be put in proper perspectives and faults can be
pointed out for the required corrective ammendment.
The issue Obasanjo raised is very good but like Nkolika pointed out, I
wonder why he did not see himself as one of the bad leaders we have
produced in Nigeria and again as rightly pointed out above by Oshin,
he has been the luckiest person in Nigeria to have lead Nigeria for
the number of times and years. Despite that opportunity he cannot be
categorised along the line he is trying to portray himself.
He is the person that all Nigerians suppose to line-up behind but
unfortunately he did not in totality deserve it. He could correct BUT
he should listen to others with intention of making constructive
criticism and not to feel he is the only one that knows the solution
to the problems of Nigeria. Obasanjo is well respected everywhere
(those who did not like him knows that fact) BUT he did not actually
do what he should have done in Nigeria.
Yes he might understood Nigeria so well, BUT he did not carry out any
surgical operations that could cleans Nigeria yet he will be talking
at every given opportunity as if he did all and other persons were
working against him. When he was leading the nation, he had so much
power, he knew how he could use the power BUT failed to do the needful
that could put Nigeria back to shape for the selfish reason best known
to him. He should stop painting Atiku and others as bad- at least he
climb them all to get to power with all of us believing that
definitely Nigeria would get back to her rightful place in the comity
of nations only for him to leave too many things undone. Who can have
his type of opportunity again? Can anybody look at Obasanjo in the
face the way they looked at late President Yaradua and now President
Jonathan and the person will not ....eat his yam raw .
He should know that he disappointed many people (I know his position
would be I dont know what I am talking about; which I will never
agreed to - because he had absolute power looking at the way he ran
the show during his dispensation) and start to contribute meaningfully
well on how to make ammendment instead of painting people black.
Fine, those he he is painting are not clean, we have heard that
several times. With the hindsight of the experiences he has as the
case is now, he should help see that things are better done now;
partake in seeing that right things are done and good person who can
actually help lead Nigeria is installed come 2015. I believe he knows
very well all that are jostling for the post of the president better
than so many of us. He should forget his grandiose and concentrate on
the move to see how things will be better for the common man. He
should work to see that it is that person be it PDP or APC or LP that
actually win. He will never be forgotten for doing that.
May God lead us aright.
On 8/14/13, Nkolika Ebele <nkolikae@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is Obasanjo not one of the curses on Nigeria? I wonder why he cannot see
> that.
> Nkolika
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>
> To: dialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:28 PM
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Obasanjo: Nigeria is Jinxed
>
>
>
> Nigeria Is Jinxed, Cursed Says Former President Obasanjo-PREMIUM TIMES
> August 13, 2013 - 17:36 — siteadmin
>
> caption: Former President Olusegun Obasanjo
> By Jide Jegede
> While reviewing Nigeria's history since independence, former President
> Olusegun Obasanjo said the country may have been cursed with poor and
> irresponsible leaders. Mr. Obasanjo, who gave the keynote address at the 4th
> Annual Ibadan Sustainable Development Summit organised by Centre for
> Sustainable Development, University of Ibadan, in collaboration with African
> Sustainable Development Network, on Tuesday, said if Nigerians were yet to
> commend a leader after 53 years of independence, "Then we are jinxed and
> cursed; we should all go to hell." He also condemned the younger generation
> of leaders in the country, saying they lack integrity and probity and have
> failed their people woefully. Making specific reference to his Vice
> President for eight years, Atiku Abubakar; former governor of Lagos State,
> Bola Tinubu; former Speaker, House of Representatives, Salisu Buhari; former
> Bayelsa State Governor, Deprieye Alamieyeseigha; and others as younger
> generation of leaders, the former President said Nigeria was not lucky even
> with them. "We had some people who were under 50years in leadership
> positions. One of them was James Ibori, where is he today? One of them was
> Alamieyeseigha, where is he today? Lucky Igbinedion, where is he today? "The
> youngest was the Speaker, (Salisu) Buhari; you can still recall what
> happened to him. You said Bola Tinubu is your master. What Buhari did was
> not anything worse than what Bola Tinubu did. "We got them impeached. But in
> this part of the world some people covered up the other man. The man claimed
> he went to Government College, Ibadan but the governor (Oyo State) went to
> Government College and packed all the documents so that they would not know
> that he did not go there. "I wanted someone who would succeed me so I took
> Atiku. Within a year, I started seeing the type of man Atiku is. And you
> want me to get him there? "I once went to Tanzania because Julius
> Nyerere recognised Biafra. He told me not to mind his aides and others in
> government. They would say they have one house in town but their five year
> old sons and daughters would have houses all over. "Some of you who are
> condemning the leadership would get there tomorrow and it will be a
> different story. Only very few are actually good. "Abacha, my predecessor
> got $750m. Through our lawyer in Switzerland we recovered $1.25bn and the
> lawyer still said there is probably still another $1bn to be recovered. In
> 1979 we had 20 new ships specially built for Nigeria. When I came back 20
> years after, the national shipping line had liquidated. "The whole thing is
> not just about leadership. If we talk about good leadership you should also
> talk about good followers. If you talk about human right you should also
> talk about human duties and obligations. "It is sad that after 53years of
> independence we have no leader that we can commend. The problem in Africa
> is that when one person takes over he would not see any good thing that his
> predecessor did. Let us condemn but with caution," the former military ruler
> and two-term democractically elected president said. The Vice-Chancellor of
> the University of Ibadan, Isaac Adewole said he was worried about the fate
> that could befall the country as she holds her general elections in 2015.
> "We have not raised question about the scenario where 35 people found it
> difficult to conduct credible election in this country," the don said in
> reference to the election of the Chairman of the Nigeria Governors Forum
> that has polarized Nigeria's 36 state governors.
>
> __._,_.___
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> Toyin Falola
> Department of History
> The University of Texas at Austin
> 104 Inner Campus Drive
> Austin, TX 78712-0220
> USA
> 512 475 7224
> 512 475 7222 (fax)
> http://www.toyinfalola.com
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