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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Israel and Egypt, how do we begin to compare these two democracies?

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Dear Cornelius,
From what I know the Yoruba are not warlike people. It does not mean that they're weak. They have traditional warriors headed by Balogun. 
You know the Yoruba are city or town people and the city life is a civilized one. They are like the Ancient Greeks who historically devoted their time to knowledge, industry  and aesthetic values. 
It is true that we have very many Yoruba who are Muslims but the current wave of violence caused by the Boko Haram Islamic sect makes the religion not to be attractive today. The kind of Islam the Yoruba embrace is not driven by senseless, cruel and inhumane passion but the one that is motivated  to serve their material interest in most cases. 
The Semitic tribes probably have a genetic trait which makes them to be  prone to violence or war.  
Thanks for the Bible references but one wonders if that is the way Yaweh does his things. 
Segun Ogungbemi. 
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On Aug 22, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Professor Segun Ogungbemi,

I have been made to understand that the Yoruba are not a warlike people, although many have embraced   the religion of Islam and Islam's adherents it seems are fighting almost everywhere where they are.

 The last time I checked, the Bible (Genesis 16:12) still says the following about Ishmael the son of Abraham who some Arabs claim is their ancestor:

"And he shall be a wild-ass of a man: his hand against everyone and everyone's hand against him: and over all his brothers shall he dwell"

 The Jewish Encyclopedia is not very generous to him either.

The obstacles to achieving the peace for which we pray every day, is most recently outlined here

But it's not only the Muslim Semites that are fighting everywhere –  the Boko Haram people are most probably not Semites but they also believe that they are doing some kind of Jihad of extermination  in the name of al-Islam….

If you are merely hinting at an "occupied North Africa", a North Africa under Arab occupation, then you don't seem to be aware that al-Islam is spreading south faster than the Harmattan winds blowing the sands southwards and that it's mostly Christian missionary activities and Islam's prohibition against al-cohol and the promotion of trash and decadent Western lifestyles that is slowing down the Islamization of the rest of Africa South of the Sahara.

 I should hope that just going through some of what Rabbi Kook has said about the significance of war, will give you a better idea that our redemption is very near…

 Yours truly,

We Sweden


 
On Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:24:28 UTC+2, seguno2013 wrote:
Cornelius,
Israelis and Arabs belong to the same Semitic tribes. It seems to me they are prone to violence. 
If you care to read their religious history particularly the Bible they were warlike people. They never lived in peace with themselves. And yet they claimed to come from Abraham. 
African countries are unstable for many reason namely, the incursion of the west to the continent and the improper partitioning of the continent, leadership and poor governance, corruption, ignorance and poverty among others. 
There cannot be peace in the Middle-East and North Africa which is illegally occupied by the Arabs until they have respect for their common historical background. 
Segun Ogungbemi. 

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On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:17 PM, "Assensoh, Akwasi B." <aass...@indiana.edu> wrote:

Wofaase Cornelius:

 

Was the leader of Boko Haram not liquidated some time ago? I understand that was why the group has been very bitter and utterly destructive.

 

In terms of Egypt and Israel, try to read former U.S. President Jimmy Carter's book, which calls for true peace in the Middle East but not apartheid.

 

Also, while Israel seems to be a lot more stable (maybe due to is unified religiosity), Egypt -- like many African countries -- is unstable and volatile. That is why it is laughable when some people want Egypt to be seen as a non-African (but an entirely Arab) country! Can there be a coup d'état in Israel? I doubt it! That is part of the way of comparing the two democracies!

 

A.B. Assensoh.

   


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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Israel and Egypt, how do we begin to compare these two democracies?

 
 
 
Is there any confirmation that the Leader of Boko Haram has been liquidated?
 
Is there any confirmation that the Leader of Boko Haram has been liquidated? How long should it take to  officially confirm or deny the rumour.
 
Would it have been better to take him as a prisoner of war? (No harm meant,  Ignoramus was only asking)

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