Thank you for your concern Mazi. I say my mind to whoever, wherever
and whenever I feel like. The possibility of physical harm do not
deter me(apology for my bad grammar).
CAO.
On Jun 12, 12:29 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg
<corneliushamelb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Chidi,
>
> You are my younger brother and I could not possibly ever wish you any harm
> and that's why I'm hastening to give you advice that should preempt/
> prevent any folly on your part.
>
> Folly?Yes folly and you need not fear any danger from the Santeria<https://www.google.se/search?q=Santeria&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=or...>Brethren - theirs is not a judgemental religion although I'm not sure that
> they too don't want to evangelise the whole world, since they tried to add
> me to their ranks. Their music is OK - so is the Igbo gospel music and even
> Patty O'Bassey - but it's the theology that I can't get a grip on.
>
> If you don't want any wahala and are still interested in cordial relations
> with other ethnic and religious groups within the Federation of Nigeria,
> you are well advised not to make any kind of statements such as, "The
> Muslims should go back to the worship ways of their forefathers.", because
> as far as Muslims are concerned although they say that Allah subhant'ala
> sent prophets to all corners of the world - their prophet has finalised and
> completed religion and Islam
> (according to them) is the only religion that the Almighty will accept - (
> of course they say that Moses - the prophet Moses was a Muslim). Bearing
> that in mind you don't say to the Hausa-man, "The Muslims should go back to
> the worship ways of their forefathers." suggesting that they should go back
> to the ways of jahailyya<https://www.google.se/search?q=Jahiliyya&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=o...>popularly known as "the pre-Islamic era of ignorance". Put your hand where
> crocodile dae feast, wahala, you go get am!
>
> Whereas the Igbo Catholics would laugh in your face, about your
> recommendations that they desert Jesus and their Roman Catholic faith, a
> Muslim would regard such encouragement as an insult and a Boko Haram type
> would probably want to make halal Kebab out of you. But if you said to a
> religious Jew that he or she should "go back to the worship ways of their
> forefathers" - he would be very happy with you. Very happy.
>
> It's not just the hooligan types in the Boko Haram who are opposed to
> Westernisation or Western education that would be displeased with a
> back-to- the-roots- cultural -awakening-and-stop- following -the
> foreign-religions that you recommend, you would also face tremendous
> opposition from those who are educated ( in the normal sense of the word)
> those who believe themselves to be the buk people and have written a
> certain quantity of books or have written a few books<http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/foisl/message/18004>on al-Islam like my good friend Mwalimu AKB Akbar, it is from his Nigerian
> counterparts and equivalents that you would greatest opposition.
>
> My conclusion: your recommendations would not apply to all nor would it
> swell into a national movement - such as Mao's " Cultural Revolution"
>
> You should of course be expecting my comments on your latest quote, that "
> Situations in religion here do not lend credence to supposed situations in
> the hereafter."
>
> Sincerely,
>
> http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 10 June 2013 21:32:48 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
>
> > "For Chidi Anthony Opara who says that "with God all things are
> > possible",
> > the past and the future should fuse into a continuum in which the
> > future
> > should recede into the past, as when he wishes that "Igbo Catholics
> > should
> > go back to the worship ways of their forefathers". That would be
> > future
> > progress...."
> > -------Mazi Cornelius
>
> > Mazi,
> > That would be cultural re-awakening.
>
> > CAO.
>
> > On Jun 10, 3:08 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > The past can be easily changed from fact to fiction as has been done
> > byrevisionists<
> >http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=16&gs_ri=psy-ab&suggest=p&cp=11&gs_id=...>
> > > who say that the Holocaust never happened. The revisionists could come
> > up
> > > with similar crap that the Atlantic Slave Trade never happened -
> > especially
> > > now that Kunta Kinte is gone - just as the generation of Holocaust
> > > survivors will not last forever (thinking of Lord Anunoby Ogugua and
> > > "eternal salvation" which for certainty's sake would also be a nice
> > thing
> > > to have - a reassuring taste of eternity, starting with something like a
> > > few thousand years of permanent youth in the here and now and not just
> > in
> > > the future, eternal virgin houris waiting for the jihadists and
> > > suicide-bombers in the Islamic heaven.
>
> > > The past can also be changed by pathalogical liars for the purpose of
> > > self-aggrandisement...
>
> > > For Chidi Anthony Opara who says that "with God all things are
> > possible",
> > > the past and the future should fuse into a continuum in which the future
> > > should recede into the past, as when he wishes that "Igbo Catholics
> > should
> > > go back to the worship ways of their forefathers". That would be future
> > > progress....
>
> > > The past can also be changed, from poetry to prose.
>
> > > Present Tense<
> >https://www.google.se/search?q=James+Carter+:+Present+Tense&client=fi...>(
> > I gave this CD to Brother Harvey Cropper last year and was happy to see
> > > him rave about James Carter !)
>
> > > Past tense
>
> > > Future Tense<
> >http://www.google.co.uk/#tbm=bks&sclient=psy-ab&q=Jonathan+Sacks+:+Fu...>
>
> > > Speaking about future possibilities be sometimes frightening , such as
> > > what you can read in A Vision of the Future<
> >https://plus.google.com/114250946512808775436/posts/QmX1vq2P9uw>
>
> > >http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/
>
> > > On Monday, 10 June 2013 14:35:52 UTC+2, shina7...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > Or yet:
>
> > > > "The past and the future are subject to wilful transgression."
>
> > > > Adeshina Afolayan
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *From: * kenneth harrow <har...@msu.edu<javascript:>>
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> > > > *Date: *Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:24:25 -0500
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> > > > *Subject: *Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Quote of the Day
>
> > > > can we alter the quotes, eugene?
> > > > here's mine:
> > > > "The past can always be changed, but the future remains immutable"
> > > > ken
>
> > > > On 6/10/13 12:34 AM, EUGENE NWOSU wrote:
>
> > > > *"The past cannot be changed. The future is yet in your power."* –
> > Mary
> > > > Pickford (1893 – 1979)
>
> > > > *With compliments: *http://optimaledge.net/#/the-secret/4574222007
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and whenever I feel like. The possibility of physical harm do not
deter me(apology for my bad grammar).
CAO.
On Jun 12, 12:29 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg
<corneliushamelb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Chidi,
>
> You are my younger brother and I could not possibly ever wish you any harm
> and that's why I'm hastening to give you advice that should preempt/
> prevent any folly on your part.
>
> Folly?Yes folly and you need not fear any danger from the Santeria<https://www.google.se/search?q=Santeria&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=or...>Brethren - theirs is not a judgemental religion although I'm not sure that
> they too don't want to evangelise the whole world, since they tried to add
> me to their ranks. Their music is OK - so is the Igbo gospel music and even
> Patty O'Bassey - but it's the theology that I can't get a grip on.
>
> If you don't want any wahala and are still interested in cordial relations
> with other ethnic and religious groups within the Federation of Nigeria,
> you are well advised not to make any kind of statements such as, "The
> Muslims should go back to the worship ways of their forefathers.", because
> as far as Muslims are concerned although they say that Allah subhant'ala
> sent prophets to all corners of the world - their prophet has finalised and
> completed religion and Islam
> (according to them) is the only religion that the Almighty will accept - (
> of course they say that Moses - the prophet Moses was a Muslim). Bearing
> that in mind you don't say to the Hausa-man, "The Muslims should go back to
> the worship ways of their forefathers." suggesting that they should go back
> to the ways of jahailyya<https://www.google.se/search?q=Jahiliyya&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=o...>popularly known as "the pre-Islamic era of ignorance". Put your hand where
> crocodile dae feast, wahala, you go get am!
>
> Whereas the Igbo Catholics would laugh in your face, about your
> recommendations that they desert Jesus and their Roman Catholic faith, a
> Muslim would regard such encouragement as an insult and a Boko Haram type
> would probably want to make halal Kebab out of you. But if you said to a
> religious Jew that he or she should "go back to the worship ways of their
> forefathers" - he would be very happy with you. Very happy.
>
> It's not just the hooligan types in the Boko Haram who are opposed to
> Westernisation or Western education that would be displeased with a
> back-to- the-roots- cultural -awakening-and-stop- following -the
> foreign-religions that you recommend, you would also face tremendous
> opposition from those who are educated ( in the normal sense of the word)
> those who believe themselves to be the buk people and have written a
> certain quantity of books or have written a few books<http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/foisl/message/18004>on al-Islam like my good friend Mwalimu AKB Akbar, it is from his Nigerian
> counterparts and equivalents that you would greatest opposition.
>
> My conclusion: your recommendations would not apply to all nor would it
> swell into a national movement - such as Mao's " Cultural Revolution"
>
> You should of course be expecting my comments on your latest quote, that "
> Situations in religion here do not lend credence to supposed situations in
> the hereafter."
>
> Sincerely,
>
> http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 10 June 2013 21:32:48 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
>
> > "For Chidi Anthony Opara who says that "with God all things are
> > possible",
> > the past and the future should fuse into a continuum in which the
> > future
> > should recede into the past, as when he wishes that "Igbo Catholics
> > should
> > go back to the worship ways of their forefathers". That would be
> > future
> > progress...."
> > -------Mazi Cornelius
>
> > Mazi,
> > That would be cultural re-awakening.
>
> > CAO.
>
> > On Jun 10, 3:08 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > The past can be easily changed from fact to fiction as has been done
> > byrevisionists<
> >http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=16&gs_ri=psy-ab&suggest=p&cp=11&gs_id=...>
> > > who say that the Holocaust never happened. The revisionists could come
> > up
> > > with similar crap that the Atlantic Slave Trade never happened -
> > especially
> > > now that Kunta Kinte is gone - just as the generation of Holocaust
> > > survivors will not last forever (thinking of Lord Anunoby Ogugua and
> > > "eternal salvation" which for certainty's sake would also be a nice
> > thing
> > > to have - a reassuring taste of eternity, starting with something like a
> > > few thousand years of permanent youth in the here and now and not just
> > in
> > > the future, eternal virgin houris waiting for the jihadists and
> > > suicide-bombers in the Islamic heaven.
>
> > > The past can also be changed by pathalogical liars for the purpose of
> > > self-aggrandisement...
>
> > > For Chidi Anthony Opara who says that "with God all things are
> > possible",
> > > the past and the future should fuse into a continuum in which the future
> > > should recede into the past, as when he wishes that "Igbo Catholics
> > should
> > > go back to the worship ways of their forefathers". That would be future
> > > progress....
>
> > > The past can also be changed, from poetry to prose.
>
> > > Present Tense<
> >https://www.google.se/search?q=James+Carter+:+Present+Tense&client=fi...>(
> > I gave this CD to Brother Harvey Cropper last year and was happy to see
> > > him rave about James Carter !)
>
> > > Past tense
>
> > > Future Tense<
> >http://www.google.co.uk/#tbm=bks&sclient=psy-ab&q=Jonathan+Sacks+:+Fu...>
>
> > > Speaking about future possibilities be sometimes frightening , such as
> > > what you can read in A Vision of the Future<
> >https://plus.google.com/114250946512808775436/posts/QmX1vq2P9uw>
>
> > >http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/
>
> > > On Monday, 10 June 2013 14:35:52 UTC+2, shina7...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > Or yet:
>
> > > > "The past and the future are subject to wilful transgression."
>
> > > > Adeshina Afolayan
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *From: * kenneth harrow <har...@msu.edu<javascript:>>
> > > > *Sender: * usaafric...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>
> > > > *Date: *Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:24:25 -0500
> > > > *To: *<usaafric...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>>
> > > > *ReplyTo: * usaafric...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>
> > > > *Subject: *Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Quote of the Day
>
> > > > can we alter the quotes, eugene?
> > > > here's mine:
> > > > "The past can always be changed, but the future remains immutable"
> > > > ken
>
> > > > On 6/10/13 12:34 AM, EUGENE NWOSU wrote:
>
> > > > *"The past cannot be changed. The future is yet in your power."* –
> > Mary
> > > > Pickford (1893 – 1979)
>
> > > > *With compliments: *http://optimaledge.net/#/the-secret/4574222007
> > > > Check out the "Secret behind the Secret" @
> > > >http://optimaledge.net/#/the-secret/4574222007
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